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posted by [personal profile] jay_walk at 08:06pm on 16/09/2011 under , ,
I just realised I have some of that type of sociological or whatever opinions that people are so fond of discussing. I thought my opinions were sort of the obvious ones that I don't need to tell anyone because it's so obvious, but apparently not.
So, the whole "born this way" thing, suddenly lgbt people have taken to using it rather a lot, as a general statement of pride instead of purely as a counterargument.
I am firmly of the opinion it is the wrong argument to be having.
People do realise we've been arguing this point literally at least for a hundred years? Do the simplest ideas always take this long? Are we really that slow?
As far as I can tell a hundred years ago the argument was that it's not their fault they're gay, they're not committing that crime on purpose, they just cannot help it and ought to be pitied.
That may have been a relatively sympathetic view a hundred years ago, but why are we still having the same discussion? We shouldn't be telling people that people regrettably just can't help being gay, we ought to argue that it doesn't matter the slightest why because people ought to be able to do whatever they want for any reason at all. I don't want to discuss some "gay gene" when I don't care whether it's genes or god or the flying spaghetti monster or just deciding you want to make out with a dude right now, they point isn't why the point is it doesn't matter why.
I think it isn't a good idea for queers or anyone to attribute their lives to genes or god or fate. Not that I'm saying it is a choice (that would be stupid), but quit focusing on how it's not their fault; it's entirely irrelevant whose fault it is when there's nothing wrong in the first place.
Can we just get it over with, making all the stupid cishetero people stop being so very stupid, and get on with it, and maybe come up with something interesting instead of waiting for them to catch up?

Ok, rant over. How am I today?
1. Sick.
2. Sick of peoples repetitiveness.
3. Sick of lgb people, bored with the whole obsession on sex and romance, although I suspect asexual people have the same obsession with their lack thereof, so
4. Sick of people saying anything at all, especially about themselves.
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posted by [personal profile] sylvaine at 10:21pm on 16/09/2011
THIS.

(Also, I like to think it's more compicated than just genes or whatever. I think there's still an element of choice involved, not in your preferences, necessarily, but in whether you follow those preferences or not. Plus, depending on your state of knowledge, you might never realise there exist other models outside of the mainstream one. So I think the reduction of everything to genes and 'we can't help it!' is a) inaccurate and b) insulting. And, as you mentioned, c) irrelevant.)

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